Initially drank right out of the can, but once in the glass, I know my eye thinks this to be a less hazy beer with a slightly darker than pale color. Maybe copper like Nikk says below. Big foaming head. Pine tar nose. I used to think that a fresh pine nose was a good thing, but today it just makes me think it's going to be a big bitter fooken IPA. First taste is a little astringent, I'm surpirized at the immature attitude this has. Yea, it's not as bitter as most IPA but that astringent-phenolic thing makes me think it's not well done. Maybe they were trying for one thing then got another and then renamed it, instead of tossing it? I bet that happens allot when you brew a thousand gallons; you don't want to just toss it, especially if it's a little experimental, hehehehehhh. Anyway, I just wish it had more of an alky content to help me appreciate it a little better. IPA, the man's beer? There, you have it. Anybody got a good cheap civilized pale lager I can use as a chaser? Just asking.