Beautiful dark amber to brown beer, with ruby hints; very huge, mixed head, light brown, leaving lace. Warm, spicey nose (juniper berry, dried savoury?), dark malts, a bit of hard baked puff-pastry. Bitterish-spicey, overlying again a cookie, (dark) cake-like taste, burnt caramel, and as some others said, laurel or some other leafy herb. Medium bodied at best, but a creamy MF, not at all thin. Warming up, the cake-like taste becomes even more marked, with the blooming sweetness. Better than average Bock, thanks to its restrained but peculiar spicing.

Clear orange color, small head. Slightly sour aroma, bit caramel, some vegetable (laurel is possible). Caramel malty taste, soft. Good balance. Bit sticky palate.