On tap at bowser’s. As I remember, yes, quite different than the first dunkel from pour house monroeville back in ’08. This is dark, but not black. Big giant foamy creamy head off the tap, whew. Slight sweet aroma. Initially its not as smooth as most dunkels I’ve had but it does have a tad of bitter earthiness in there. Yes, something like hop bitter never subsides and constantly reminds me this is not really smooth, but enjoyable, nevertheless.