First time I’ve seen this round here. Rather strong aroma, somewhat rubbery. Colored like iced tea. Thin blanket head. Tastes alot like the yeast east end uses. Bitter medicinal backbone. No haze or sediment. Twisting swigs with little co2. Rude high creamy alky cloying taste bud effect. Not as civilized as the beldgies but its like many american wanna be versions of trippels and dubbels. Some smooth co2. Its ridiculous to put this in the same style as orval, heheh.