Smell is like wrenching IPA BO, typical of the strong IPA style. Cloudy brown looks like a dark hefe. Thin rocky head. Very little if any co2 on the palate. Quite strong armed and mouth coating. Rude. Does not hide its alky content well. Did I say rude? Yes but onstyle if you like these things. Nice lacing on the glass. Nasty Nellie and trumping teddy. Becomes difficult after a while for this lager lover Wew, I think I’m getting a tad dizzy, better find a designated driver. If you like strong ales, ignore my numbers and do this brew, you will not be disappointed.