Bottle, Black with a modest tan head. Aroma is roasty with mocha, dark berries, some soy sauce. 7- Silky, lowish carbonation. Sweet mocha is a little milky, roasted malt is firm, berry note leads into slightly spiced and decisive bitterness. Good.

Bottle from Yamaichi. Roasty, chocolate nose, some minerals, cream, light coffee. Belgian yeast character comes through well. Deep shiny black with a pretty tan head. starts sweet, chocolate, berries, cafe au lait. Bitter, roasty finish. This one is in good shape. There is a bit of soy / nato funkiness too. Very bitter finish is mostly hops I think. Soft, silky body. Well done, finally. Too bitter for my liking actually, but that is more a preference than a fault.