Bottle. Confusing label - Diogenes the himbo? Clear amber, less than a coat of off white head is soon gone. 3-Aroma of grappa, bread, dried fruit. Oily, low carbonation. Sweet with bread, grapes in various states (fresh, moldering, oxidised). Firmish bitterness grips gradually - maybe it's more than firmish. After a while there are spicy hints that rye is involved. No overt alcohol. Good - enough going on to be interesting but for the strength I would have liked either a bit more depth or some a lightening lilt.