I suppose if the red man is doubly fat the capaciousness of his sack is occluded. Canvent. Deep red amber with a beige head. Brooding toffee and stewed fruit aroma with lighter tropical fruits struggling through. But the hops cut though more than I recall they do in fm,rs,bs and the sweetness is less prominent. Some tropical fruit, resin, citrus and pepper towards the fairly bitter end. Not what I expected at all.