Well, the classic Schultheiss Berliner Weisse was brilliant in its sour complexity and ability to refresh. I gave it a 5.0. I cellared a bunch but after the 3rd year it began to turn...figures, since the beer was perfect to begin with. Had some old ones recently, though, from the mid-1970s. Looks like they are West German, but it’s tough to tell.

Berilner Weisse Landre poured flat, pale yellow. The aroma was almost floral, somewhat vinous and woody. It was tart, with maybe some vinegar. The body was a little bit slick from lack of carbo, but it left some tartness on the tongue. Past its prime by a while, but still drinkable. 7-2-6-3-12 = 3.0

Groter Jan Berliner Weisse was a cloudy dull tan. The aroma was a bit autolyzed. The body still had some spritz, 30+ years later. It was tart, with carbonation pulling vegetal notes and some florals across the palate. Pretty decent character, I though, not super fresh but still easily recognizable as a Berliner weisse. 4-2-7-4-15 = 3.2